How does leviathan change mass effect ending

Sign up using Email and Password. Post as a guest Name. Email Required, but never shown. Screenshot of the Week. Submit your photo Hall of fame. Featured on Meta. Now live: A fully responsive profile. Screenshot of Week 51 [Submissions Closed]. Related Hot Network Questions. Question feed. Arqade works best with JavaScript enabled. Accept all cookies Customize settings. Leviathan probably should've been the whole subplot to ME3, not the Cerberus thing. That would've made it better.

If only Leviathan came out before the Extended cut Also you have some quaint ideas as to how Bioware work if you think they needed to hire on staff again, given they're an ongoing studio. Replacing one Deus ex Machina with another one wouldn't live up to the gigantic expectations people had. Which includes the crazy notion that "every choice you made mattered". And yet Bioware were able to churn out the EC which was completely new content in very little time at all.

Kind of puts your entire argument into the reject bin tbh. Prabably not, one of my issues with the end was the whole.. First I should make it clear that I didn't dislike the ending. I was disappointed but I didn't dislike it. It simply was. Having played through the Leviathon DLC it didn't add anything to the story to me.

At the end you get the same info dump as you got from Leviathon it's just that it is more sudden and vague. It was still clear that there were beings who came before the Reapers who created an AI that was charged with coming up with a way to keep organics from creating synthetics that would kill the organics. I knew that the star kid was a manifestation of that AI and that Shepherd had thrown a wrench in this whole 'solution' machine.

The only thing the Leviathon DLC added was that it explained who the beings who were already mentioned were and that they were killed by the AI because they were morons and didn't think through this scenario. The DLC made me think the precursor beings were idiots. That's all. It is utterly meaningless to me in terms of the ME story as a whole. It didn't change the ending. It didn't make it better or worse.

And, most importantly of all, it didn't fix all of the gameplay problems ME 3 had. I would've accepted the ending as it is with the Extended Cut and Leviathan had they come with the box in March, yes. I think it would have helped certainly. Watching them play the Leviathan DLC I really did enjoy that there was at least some sort of explanation of where the reapers came from. What I hated most about the ending was that the star child was so out of the left field. With the Leviathan DLC it makes more sense.

I don't think it would have made the ending perfect or anything, but it would have helped the fact that it was so 'out there'. When I first saw the ending I thought it was just some sort of mystical mumbo-jumbo which I didn't like -- knowing that the star child was just a projection made more sense.

Some people think the ending is fine, some people think the ending is good or great. Some people hate it, some people don't care, some are unhappy but can live. Problems with the end range from not liking the sequence with the star child, some don't like not having their choices taken in to account, some don't like the state of the universe after the choice, some don't like how shoddy it was put together, some don't like the lack of effort put in with having the same cutscene for all endings just in different colours.

It was a tool designed to solve a single problem but the Leviathans failed to consider the possibility that the Catalyst would deem its own creators part of that very problem.

I admit that the logic behind this all is a little confusing and circular but it makes a certain level of sense when you think about it. User Info: Nafzger. The logic isn't confusing when it's simply non-existent. How to make the Reapers better tenfold, by Arsenal Step 1. Make the Reapers were a highly advanced organic race that sought immortality Step 2. Tell us how the Reapers discovered way to become immortal by turning themselves into eternal machines Step 3.

Tell us how the Reapers noticed burgeoning species challenging their rule, so they devised a plan to keep them in check. Step 4. Show us that the Reapers admired the species that dared challenge them, so they decided to process that species into one of their own.

Now, the story is that in order to keep these up and coming races in check and on a schedule, the Reapers devised a systematic culling of the herd every 50, years and to assure their dominance, they put things in place to help guide these species on the paths they desired, as to not usurp them sooner.

It might be simplistic and cliche, but it makes a hell of a lot more sense than this drivel they came up with.

User Info: MurphysGhost. Have I got this right? The Leviathans created the reapers to preserve organic life and they are being controlled by that kid at the end of the game.

So the reapers kill everything before AI can kill them? I don't know :l The Reapers don't really think of it as "killing".

In ME2 Harbinger refers to the process of converting people into a Reaper as "ascension". What the Reapers do from their perspective is preserve the genetic identity and memories of a species in a nearly immortal synthetic shell. If they didn't do this so they argue , most of the species they harvested would eventually kill themselves with their own technology and all that genetic data and memory would be permanently lost- and the technology that destroyed them, if it was AI, might threaten everything else in the galaxy and exterminate all organic life, leaving a dead galaxy behind.

This idea in particular must have frightened the Leviathans, whose culture depended on having organic races to enthrall. More topics from this board